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Obama misarticulates self defense & stand your ground

Posted By Uncle Jimbo • [July 19, 2013]

Just in case you still have the mistaken notion that Obama is particularly  knowledgeable about the law, he said this today.

"And for those who, who resist that idea that we should think about something like these stand-your-ground laws, I just ask people to consider: If Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened? And if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws."

Let me help you out Mr. President, since it seems you may have slept through most of law school. If Trayvon was attacked by Zimmerman and legitimately feared for his life, then of course he could have shot him. And a jury would have acquitted him in a trial. Except there wouldn't have been a trial because your tool Eric Holder would not have improperly pressured Florida to act like Putin's Russia.

Let's keep going since you obviously need some help with simple logic and reason. Following someone in a car may be mildly threatening, but it does not even begin to rise to a justified use of self defense. Here is what that requires

A person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.

That is it, Mr. President. So as usual you have created a straw man who must be shot full of holes to make a point you aren't even close to understanding. Or worse, you just don't give a sh** if it let's you demagogue. Stand your ground isn't even in play in the house of straw you constructed. Didn't any of your toadies bother to point that out before you waltzed into the press room to embarrass yourself?.

If you wanted to construct an actual stand your ground scenario, then Zimmerman has to be chasing Trayvon, get out of his car and point a gun at him saying "I am going to shoot you, because I hate hoodies". At that point Trayvon can punch him, break his nose and the climb on top of him and smash his head against the concrete until he is dead. "He said he was going to shoot me. I feared for my life and acted in self defense. I didn't try to run away because I didn't want to get shot in the back". Voila, a textbook Stand Your Ground defense.

He wouldn't even have to have a good reason not to run away. If he is legitimately threatened, then he has a right to defend himself against unlawful aggression. And yes Mr. President, even black people can do this. Matter of fact a disproportionate number of the people in Florida who have used the stand your ground defense have been black. You should try to read something other than the New York Times and your own press releases. A lot of people have said a lot of incandescently stupid things over this. But can't we at least expect the President of the United States to speak accurately about the law? Sorry, my apologies. I forgot who I was talking about.


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