Fire the DSS and Keep Blackwater...

Posted By Deebow

Do you think Blackwater Operatives would let this happen??

As Rice entered the hearing room, one woman rushed toward her and waved her hands — painted blood red — in front of the secretary's face. The protester shouted that Rice was a "war criminal" and should be taken to The Hague, home of an international war crimes tribunal.

When I saw this picture, my first immediate reaction was that the next thing that should be going through Ms. Code Stink's mind should be a 5.56 slug. 

I have worked several high profile, and some very high profile Protective Details (some with DSS) and this case is one of the strongest I have seen for pulling a six pack of Whoop-Ass out of the fridge, taking one, and passing it around to the group.  My immediate action drill for someone charging at me, shouting and waving what looks like bloody hands at me is to draw my weapon, get a good immediate sight picture, and snap off as many rounds as necessary to stop that threat.

The beatdown that should have taken place when this woman did this should have been vicious enough that everyone in the room would have gapsed.  She isn't just Condi Rice, aspiring NFL Commissioner and member of the NSC, she is the f'ing Secretary of State.  You just don't run up on her like you are back on the block and start waving your hands in her face.

The Diplomatic Security Service should be ashamed of themselves.  Whoever runs her detail needs to stop assuming that hearings on Capitol Hill are "safe havens" and they need to escort her all the way to her seat and to also have some guys in the crowd ready to stomp a mudhole in someone's ass and then Riverdance it dry.  I am disappointed that someone like this was able to get this close to Secretary Rice without being repeatedly pimp-slapped into unconsciousness.  I think Blackwater has some guys they can spare who are trained in the lost art of pimp-slapping and properly protecting dignitaries.  Can't we get those guys to do a "train the trainer" class for the DSS? 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.  This is what happens when you can't form a cogent, coherent argument as to why you believe something because of the wafting potsmoke and the hemp underwear (ouch!).  Keep on screamin' and wavin' stupid.  See what happens next. 

And after we finish off this useful idiot, and any of her friends dumb enough to do the same thing, we should take Committee Chairman Tom Lantos (D- California) out to the woodshed and paddle him within an inch of his life.  I have no doubt that he invited these morons to come in and create this disturbance.  I am certain this was some perfidious activity designed to help him grand-stand with the loony far left.  What a tool.

It is scenes like this as to why Code Pink will be one of the first targets when the soccer-moms revolt, right after the ACLU.

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[VarangianWife]

Makes. Me. SICK!

I am 100% in support of free speech and the right of these idiots to spout their nonsense, but this woman's actions crossed the line.

I don't know the law in DC, but... "Some states also define assault as an attempt to menace (or actual menacing) by placing another person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury." (Wiki: assault)

I was amazed that Condi maintained her composure when confronted by this loon. Rice is one classy lady. :)

[Uncle Jimbo]

Don't sugar coat it Deebs, say what you feel.

Cordially,

Uncle J

[Roachman]

Stomp a mudhole....then Riverdance it dry

That, sir, is pure poetry.

And I totally concur WRT the piss-poor security response. How can so-called professionals allow someone acting even remotely like this to get anywhere near the principle? In addition to being extremely embarrassed, a number of them need to be polishing their resumes.

Dr. Rice handled the situation with class and aplomb. Sadly, the whackos are incapable of taking a lesson in civil behavior from the Secretary.

[Deltabravo]

Not surprised that Condi didn't flinch. That's what we love about her, isn't it?

As for the CodePink Hag, some of us soccer moms might find al-Qaeda-style halftime shows with womyn like that amusing. She misses the irony of how the Taliban would react to such a display of bloody freedom as she curses those who keep her safe.

[Marzouq]

Saw a video of this. They also dragged some code pinkos out of there.

This crap is standard for this lefty crowd. Check out some of the crap at the Islamofashist Awareness activities going on.

These fools rave about freedom of speech but they surely do not practice what they preach.

Salaam eleikum Y'all!

[Marzouq]

"deltabravo" What a moniker! LMAO when I noticed that!

[Teresa]

If there are not a bunch of "security" (and I use that term very loosely) types looking for a job right this minute - then we will see this happen again and again until one day it won't just be a raving lunatic pinko - it will be a deadly assassin.

While I applaud Ms. Rice for keeping her cool in front of the cameras - I hope she lost it behind closed doors and let her security detail know that she expects this to never happen again.

If the assassin doesn't care whether or not they are arrested or even killed in the process - it's very easy for someone with training to kill with their bare hands. Now it's been proven that someone who looks like a raving housewife can get close to Ms. Rice - the danger to her has increased 10 fold.

[Soldier's Mom]

Exactly where in DC did this happen? I have an Army ID, a set of orders and an escort and I practically get strip searched going in Govt buildings back there -- should I start wearing black and have my hands drip blood to avoid this in the future?

[Deltabravo]

Marzouq...
Actually, I did not mean anything humorous about it... just my initials. If there is greater significance, please share! I love a good joke as much as anyone! ;-)
If I accidentally stumbled upon funny, point it out!

[Soldier's Mom]

here is the story under the picture on USA today -- from the looks of the last name -- she brought her own photog. And look at Condi's face -- she's biting her tongue not to respond but I bet she would have loved to have slapped her down!

"Protester Desiree Farooz confronts Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a photograph taken today by Charles Dharapak of the Associated Press.

Rice was preparing to testify before the House Foreign Affairs Committee when she encountered Farooz inside the hearing room. Farooz had painted her hands red, apparently to symbolize her group's claim that members of President Bush's cabinet have blood on their hands because of the way they've waged war in Iraq.

USA TODAY has a wire story about the secretary's subsequent testimony about the Mideast peace process."

[Deltabravo]

You know, I'd love it if someone pulled that crap around me. I'm looking for a good reason to b*****slap some screechbag into nowhere and an opportunity like that would be a fun excuse to let off a little hostility. I could take her down. I know it. I know it! (Unlike her, I spent my formative years around military guys who were big on teaching the little ladies self defense.)

[Deltabravo]

Desiree Farooz...
sounds like what you'd get if you crossed al-Qaeda with a pole-dancer.

Was she screaming Allahu-Akhbar when this went down?

It was probably a good drill for Dr. Rice for having to talk to Democratic interrogators. (I wonder if she was saying "They don't pay me enough to put up with this ####)

[cold pizza]

DB, (snicker), sorry. You may want to consider picking another
moniker.

[cold pizza]

Let's try again: Moniker .

[LLP]

Wow, what a bunch of internet tough guys (and in your first sentence you advocate murder - how brave). Why don't you wusses get out and protest in real life instead of bitching on the internet - or better yet, enlist and get your asses over to Iraq. Don't you guys want to kick some terrorist ass? You do realize that winning will require something more than a yellow bumper sticker and insulting liberals on the internet.

[Steve O.]

Deebow;

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[bthun]

Do I ever agree that the Secretary's security detail should be reviewing procedure and/or posting on Monster.com as we speak.

It is absolutely unbelievable that with all the loons in the current U.S. Fifth Column on the loose these days that Ms. Bloody-hands Farooze was allowed to deliver her rant that close to the U.S. Secretary of State.

And yes you do have to admit that Rice is a cool customer in that she did not execute a palm heel strike or a front snap-kick to the Faroozer's smoozer.

A toast to Secretary Rice, "Here's to your enemies' enemies". Skoal!

The Secretary's security detail should be reviewing procedure and/or posting on Monster.com as we speak.

[scrapiron]

cold pizza , there are a lot of us that have been there, done that, and your cowardly a** won't last long either. Just find the right crowd and make your stupid remark the next time momma lets you out of the basement, or the judge releases you on probation on the hard drug charges. You'll be cold and look like the tomato sauce mixed with cheese on a cold pizza.

[Invernessie]

Where's a good taser when you need one?

[Synova]

People like Farooz, because of the incredible tolerance sane people show, do not realize that they are behaving in a dangerous fashion. We are soooo insistant on disapproving of violence that children never learn what proper limits on behavior are. Proof of this is in every confused whine when something bad *does* happen to them. Take the fellow that was in Buzz Aldrin's face, calling him names and getting in his space, assaulting him... (technically battery, I'm told) and he got punched out for it. Consider "don't taze me bro" and other recent events.

Or, for that matter, that girl who went and stood in front of an Israeli bulldozer.

So they haul the Code Pinkers out and the whiny women, "You're hurting me. Why are you hurting me?"

Well, when you behave in a way that is coercive and disruptive you get removed. DUH. If you must be physically removed it requires *physically* removing you. If you don't move you get your hands twisted and you get *moved*.

Running up to some one who can reasonably expect a physical assault (or anyone else for that matter, who might feel threatened) is YOU authorizing physical and *painful* force to be used against YOU. No one else did it to you. YOU did it.

I'm normally not one to take pleasure in other people's pain, seriously, no one hear has read me being gleeful at it, but the whining? "You're hurting me!"

That is *really* funny.

[Synova]

here not hear

dang finger macros

[Subsunk]

Let's see. The Secretary of State is fifth in succession to head the US government should a major disaster take out those ahead of her. Before Nahhhhncy became Speaker of the House, Condi was the woman closest to being "Head Honcho" in this administration.

And we protect our Senators with better security don't we? We protect our "wannabe Presidents" from Hillary (ok not fair she's a former First Lady and thus deserves protection), to Rudy, to ...Ron Paul, my Congresscritter (God I hate that guy. I've never been able to vote him out for any reason and don't think I haven't tried. But I think he will be toast after the fiasco he is putting on now, thank the Lord). Nancy Pelosi and Dingy Harry Reid and Ron Paul get protection don't they?

So I think the SENIOR Cabinetperson in succession deserves a little consideration in this event, don't you?

The DSS needs to be ashamed. Of course, that service is run by a bunch of foreign service types, so why should we expect them to actually be proficient at the use of force?

When the country was founded, the reason the Secretary of State was chosen as first in Cabinet rank was because they recognized WHEN to use force in foreign affairs. Secretary of War was charged with HOW to use force and that alone. Nowadays, most of our Secretaries of State wouldn't recognize force in use until their ass had been extracted through their mouth and they were physically turned inside out. And they would probably want to offer concessions and talk about their feelings to the folks perpetrating such an act on their persons while it was in progress.

Condi is the exception to that rule (although even she has lost some cojones since she had to oversee the wussy farm at Foggy Bottom).

DSS needs a swift kick in the ass and a wake up. I agree Blackwater would be better utilized to protect those government officials who truly deserve it in our own country now. It's getting as bad a Baghdad when any idiot with a chemical plaster on their hands can lay hands on a govt official and not be punished for it. Just a hop skip and a jump away from a suicide killing or an anthrax dusting if we aren't gonna wake up here.

"Stomp a mudhole....then Riverdance it dry". Love that line, Jimbo.

Subsunk

[Subsunk]

Sorry, I meant Deebow. You just sound like Jimbo, son. You're obviously in good company, eh?

Subsunk

[Old Tanker]

scrapiron,

LLP is the loud mouth dumb ass troll that doesn't know most people here have been there done that. colpizza was the post ABOVE the typical left chickenhawk "why don't you go to Iraq" bullshit that only a complete moron would spew on a freakin' milblog of all places

[Deebow]

LLP:

I am a bit busy to protest. I have a job.

In addition, while you and these Code Pink Buttholes are running around trying to get their asses kicked by security and screaming about "BLOOD FOR OIL!; only to stop at your local organic market for a Veggie burger on your way home to your warm bed; I was walking patrol in the mountains of eastern and southern Afghanistan hunting the guys who want to slit your throat (i.e. not debate with you the merits of Islam or come to some agreement that Pres. Bush is a stupid warmonger looking for oil).

So there LLP, when you have looked through the sights of your rifle and had to decide whether some insurgent jackass lives or dies, then you can talk to me about advocating murder.

It is not murder to defend yourself against those that would like to see you dead. And don't think for a second that Code Pink, in the darkest places in their hearts, would not want that for Secretary Rice.

[Steve O.]

Deebow;

I wouldn't even waste my time responding to someone like LLP. Obviously they do not realize that most of us on this blog are combat veterans.

These are the same Left Wing wack-jobs that scream that Bush is also Hitler. But if they educated themselves they would understand that notion is simply ridiculous and doesn't even warrant comment.

LLP probably got up on the wrong side of that warm bed and spilled their bong water this morning.

Right on LLP, now go ask your mommy for some more dope money, you jackass.

Here's hoping that Ahmed the Taliban Commander does get to slit your throat.

[Sissy414]

Now that post, Deeb, was a thing of beauty. And speaking as B5's official "girl from around the way"... on my block, she would have been dropped so fast, the camera wouldn't have been able to catch that shot. Judging from Dr. Rice's "Oh HELL no you didn't!" expression, you know that's what she was thinking.

I shudder to think that it was even remotely possible to get that close to the Secretary of State.

[pithhelmet]

Blackwater? Nah, I think this could be best handled by the University of Florida Police Department.

[LLP]

LOL at the Keyboard Commandos. Easy to act tough when you're behind the safety of your keyboard. You guys would never have the balls to say this stuff in real life, LOL.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

We really did need to make a few more people famous for 15 minutes screaming about being Tased..

Seriously; Secy of State and these people can run up on her like that? Damn sad.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

At least we know LLP's mom does NOT wear army boots. Else he might be able to act like he was at least a grade school graduate.

Bounces off us and sticks to you son...
Know what I mean?

[LLP]

Are you guys always so angry, or do you need to listen to 4 hours of talk radio first?

[Rich Casebolt]

While DSS definitely needs reproof, could it be that we have the same dynamic going on with them, that we have regarding snipers and ROE?

That is, could it be that DSS doesn't want to step on the toes of the Capitol Police ... or offend the sensibilities of the Senatorial rabble Secretary Rice was testifying before in that room (and by "rabble" I mean those asking the questions ... when they aren't pontificating themselves)?.

Is DSS also worried about media coverage of any action on their part?

Of course, such wussifying influences are the tip of the iceberg ... it is amazing the stares I get when I tell a Leftist that their strident protests at even the HINT of direct action is a root cause underlying our use of proxies like the Shah and Saddam ... and that had they advocated direct and decisive action to, for example, protect the rights of the Iranian people during the time of the Shah and SAVAK, Islamofascism would not be the potent threat to civilization it is today.\

Their successful insistence upon a policy of INACTION leads to the wussified stupidities we see today ... hesitation in the mountains of Afghanistan, and mindless confrontation on the Senate floor.

I don't hold the operators responsible.

I hold those in authority who have insisted upon INACTION, at the behest of those who screamed the loudest for it ... and by doing so, show their ignorance of history and human nature.

[Rich Casebolt]

And, maybe I'm stretching things too far, but I think we need to start rocking the Left (and their sycophants in the Democrat Congressional leadership and MSM) back on their heels over this matter ... how their insistence on INACTION has made, and is making, life more dangerous for our warfighters ... for our leaders ...

... and ultimately, for us all.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

Well Rich, in my thinking, we had 8 years of Inaction (and plenty-O-hand wringing over unintended consequences) that were proceeded by 32 years of inaction in the face of murder at will by the Dirkas.

It is hard to turn that super tanker around.

However, given that:
-the incredibly incompetent Liberal Congress has an 11% approval rating
-hillary is truly hated by 50% of those polled. (Have you ever been polled? Not me..)
-Louisana voted in a black conservative Governor that no-one heard about or will ..
-that France actually voted for a non-liberal.

I think we might be all right here.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

And, maybe I'm stretching things too far, but I think we need to start rocking the Left (and their sycophants in the Democrat Congressional leadership and MSM) back on their heels over this matter ... how their insistence on INACTION has made, and is making, life more dangerous for our warfighters ... for our leaders ...

... and ultimately, for us all.

We can only do it through rejection at voting time. Barbara Boxer working the french fry station at McDonalds, Pelosi cleaning toilets at an assisted living facility..Reid being fired over and over at anything the attempts....mostly working at gas stations.... music to the ears

[Rich Casebolt]

Cincinnati_Bob, I think we need to spread the accountability wider than Congress ... though that's a good place to start.

Code Pink ...
ANSWER ...
the various "Peace Centers" ...
MoveOn/MediaMatters and the other minions of Darth Soros ...
and the MSM ...

... all share culpability for the wussification that has made this conflict longer, harder, and INEVITIBLE ... by discouraging direct, timely, resolute, and decisive action when called for.

Their way of thinking needs to be weighed, to be found wanting ... and in VERY public ways, so that future generations will be hesitant to emulate them.

And one other thing ... I believe this same wuss culture, with its excretions of mindless-but-intense criticism, was the impetus that pushed SECDEF Rumsfeld and the DOD, despite good intentions, to prosecute the war in Iraq with one eye on the EXIT door and the other eye on CNN, at each stop along the way ... unwittingly giving the critics the long slog they expected, and erroneously validating their view that INACTION was the right course all along.

Departing from that path was a significant element of the Surge ... and its success.

And the critics can't understand it ... so they are all over the place now, in a panic, straining at every gnat to regain their credibility before it totally slips away at the hands of people like you and me.

I say ... apply more grease!

[The WatchCat]

Rich, I had the same thought about the snipers, ROE and the media. This chokehold of political correctness on security issues is out of control.

But I also suspect that Secretary Rice has given some clear instructions on how she wants her protective detail to operate. They answer to her, after all.

We're trying to maintain national security in a nation of people who feel free to critique everything, who are more afraid of appearing unkind than they are afraid of a physical threat. (Until they're actually hurt, then the blame game begins.) Simply put, perception is valued over security. If that's what the American people want, one of these days we will all suffer the consequences. And if not, we need to shout down the media and makes ourselves heard.

[Uncle Jimbo]

I'm gonna have to go with Subsunk, you kinda did sound like me Deebs,

I'm touched.

Now as to wanking device LLP, I find it beyond comical that you will call us out for hiding behind the internets,

I will give you a grid coordinate that tells you within a meter where I am and will make an appointment to meet you there. Somehow I think I will remain unrequited.

In the meantime, why don't you f**k off now and avoid the rush.

Cordially,

Uncle J

[sanddog]

Part of the problem is that Congress will not allow DSS to do their job within the halls of Congress. In any other venue, they'd be allowed to sweep the hallways and the hearing room to remove any potential threat(s). In this case, you have a Congress that not only won't remove the threat, they've invited it in.

I don't know how many members of her detail Sec Rice takes to the hill but they have to cover the hallway as well as the hearing room since the capitol police are incapable or unwilling to guarantee any level of security for her.

[cold pizza]

History doesn't always repeat, although it sometimes rhymes. Lincoln had his copperheads, we've got our dhimmicrats. History will vindicate GWB in taking the fight to the ME and letting those S.O.B. jihadivistas throw themselves into the steel maw of the U.S. military.

People who fail to understand this ongoing conflict between the forces of modernity and the forces intent on maintaining 8th C. barbarism are the products of a decadent, narcissistic culture. They have no understanding of, nor appreciation for the violent recorded history of mankind. History began when they were born and they're so filled with their own "smartness" that if everybody would just listen to them, they'd be able to solve all the world's problems. Can't you see it's for the common good?

Humanity ain't wired that way. We are irrational, violent, amazingly creative, loving, hating, living creatures engaged in constant power struggles with everyone around us (even the people we love). It is our nature to fight. It is the nature of some men to seek to dominate others. It is the nature of some men to be wolves, just as it is in our nature to be sheepdogs.

Sheep don't like the sheepdogs. Sheep blame the sheepdog for the wolves' attacks. Sometimes, though, you think it'd feel really good to just taze the hell out of the occasional hysterical pink sheep, just to remind them not to pester the sheepdogs. -cp (MSgt USAF-Ret (2005))

[Deltabravo]

(Still debating whether I should take definition #3 of Deltabravo and stick with it... ;-) Thanks for the head's up.

I think of this encounter with Code Pinko, though, as maybe Condi sending a message to the world. "This is what democracy looks like. You can say things to the leadership and the "goon squads" don't cart you off for a beating."

A lesson in how governments could work. Playing to the press that would replay Desiree Fool-zoo's arrest over and over and over in every tinpot dictatorship in the world if they had reacted and given her the rib cracking she deserved.

Maybe there is method in the madness....

[chiropetra]

But I also suspect that Secretary Rice has given some clear instructions on how she wants her protective detail to operate.

That very well may be the case. I suspect that Sec. Rice is smart enough to understand who wins encounters like this -- unlike the twitess who made a fool of herself and demeaned her cause in the national news with this stunt.

And let us not forget that in the 8th Century, Islam was indeed a progressive, enlightented movement. Of course the rest of the world has moved on since then and Islam has been eaten out and destroyed from within by its self-generated barbarians.

There's a lesson there for us, but I doubt that people like this bloody handed moron are capable of grasping it.

[jordan]

I suspect it was ROE risk-aversion, especially being before Congress, the cameras, and a world audience.

Alternatively, it could have been DSS standing down to "teach" a lesson to all about the consequences of softening up. Blackwater's Eric Prince said in one interview last week that he was disappointed in State's tepid defense of his company. Perhaps DSS feels the same.

Was there any reaction or statement from the Hill interrogators about this incident? After all, the hearing was about security arrangements for officials.

[john Ryan]

EWverone who disagrees with me is wrong and should be shot

[Davod]

The guy in charge of the DSS (Former head of the President's SS security detail) has just been sacked for the Blackwater problems. Maybe his troops caannot operate without direction (pun).

[Soldier's Mom]

LLP:

Don't know who you are, but, I am the mother of 4 sons, one who has been to Iraq/Afghanistan SEVEN that's right -- 7 times since October 2001. Most of these guys have spent more time on the ground in the war than you have alive. To paraphrase a comment my Dad used to use about useless officers -- "You wouldn't make a pimple on a good soldier's butt!"

[Jim]

LLP,

You apparently can't read... The guys who contribute to this blog have been there and done that. They either have been or are at the tip of the spear. So, why don't you just go and be a good idiot and STFU.

Jim C

[Jeffrey Carr]

That's a really unbelievable display of incompetency. I recently attended a private speech given by our next President, Senator Clinton, in a secure conference center on the Microsoft campus, and her Secret Service detail did a great job. You didn't see them until she left the podium and entered a roped off reception area. All of a sudden, there were a half-dozen agents within 10 feet of her in every direction. Very impressive.

[Rich Casebolt]

Jeffrey ... that display of competence was facilitated, in all probability, by Microsoft's physical-security team (which is probably quite competent in its own right) being quite cooperative regarding the presence of the Secret Service on its "home turf".

Unlike the situation within the Capitol, bureaucracy, politics ... and media on the lookout for the next "Blackwater" excessive-force story ... were probably not in play to any significant degree with regards to security, during this recent speech given by this generation's analogue to George McGovern.

And even if it was, the Secret Service has a reputation for putting competence over politics.

*********************

John ... if you want to have a world where protesters in close proximity to our leaders will not provoke the threat -- or use -- of lethal force, then stop your carping and support those who will decisively interdict those who would bring lethal force into such venues, to use against our leaders.

President Bush is one of those who needs your support in this matter ... among others.

If you really seek peace ... protest the terrorists, before you protest the leaders of a checked-and-balanced, rights-respecting government.

Especically when you are approaching our leaders with the blood of your own INACTION on your hands.

[Marzouq]

DeltaBravo,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. The reason I cracked up is an army buddy of mine, an MP, used it as a code word to describe those of the female persuasion. I can not repeat what the D.B. stands for in mixed company.

Heck, sorry I even commented on it.

Best.

[defendusa]

Marzouq... Perhaps you thought DeltaBravo was a man(I'm not wrong, am I?)...no harm, no foul. Anyone with military background and the use of slang and the phonetic alphabet could have 'Ass-umed' what you did, haahaha. I know of what you speak!

I had a friend (also an MP)that was in the Army 3 years ahead of me-he used to like to rag me and be the big MP on campus. He actually drove to Ft. Jackson's Tank Hill from Bragg while I was in Basic, just to see me standing parade rest in front of him...I get called out of KP duty- And there Mac is in all his glory, me, at ease and staring straight ahead. He "makes" me greet him properly then he drops me for a few. When I recovered, the stinker said, "Man you look tired, and MAN, what happened to your boobs? Aren't they feeding you enough?" That night I got an extra dessert from the NCOIC of the mess hall. Go figure!

[Gryph]

There is no constitutional right not to be yelled at by a jerk. And I would like to have a little more information about the incident before passing judgment on the security. Was everyone searched for a weapon prior to entry of the room? And just exactly how far was the protester from Rice? She was close, but really, how close? And did not the woman immediately get taken down and thrown out of the room. Security did not necessarily fail, it may have done exactly what its supposed to do.

Even if it didn't, you may not be able to do a damn thing to prevent these sort of things if you want public officials to have any kind of contact with the public. Or even with private citizens. The father of the MoH winner could have punched the President in the nose this week. I'm not saying anything political about that, just that if he had wanted to, there would be nothing physically stopping him from getting off at least one good punch.

I find some of the outrage about this incident a bit misplaced in its scale. We don't elect and worship the Pharaoh-King and his Entourage. Our political leaders are not sacred beings. Our system is based on an idea that no citizen is inherently more worthy than another when it comes to serving in public office.

I'm reminded of Novak during the Clinton years when he was complaining about all the extra security in front of the White House that they were putting in at the time. Namely that it was the people's house and that we should have full access to it. And not to worry too much if we lose a President. This America, we can always get another one.

[cletus]

When a member of the Executive Branch is an invited guest of the Legislative Branch, they are absolutely required to see to it that they are safe.

Seems congress is neglecting this basic responsibility in the increasing breakdown of politics.

This Fairooz woman was given a pass by SOMEBODY. Doesn't it seem probable that we could find out who that somebody is, and get to the bottom of this? Wouldn't a responsible congress do just that?

[bthun]

"There is no constitutional right not to be yelled at by a jerk. And I would like to have a little more information about the incident before passing judgment on the security. Was everyone searched for a weapon prior to entry of the room? And just exactly how far was the protester from Rice? She was close, but really, how close?"

You have got to be kidding... Ok let's just for a moment forget about District of Columbia Official Code 22-404 and U.S. Code - Title 18: Sec. 351. Congressional, Cabinet, and Supreme Court assassination, kidnapping, and assault; penalties and pretend that if you were to appear with blood all over your hands and you started heading my way, me being an insignificant old geezer, in an aggressive manner while calling me everything but your best buddy, and you were to get in my face with that blah, murderer blah, criminal blah, nonsense... I have not one whit of doubt that I would deck your sorry ass to alleviate the potential threat and then pay the fine, if I happened to be dealt a judge who did not understand the criminal code as it applies to assault.

I am not a public official, just an old guy who was raised in an era when a potential physical threat was not to be tolerated on the premise that the loon might only be a frothy, irrational, loud mouth with no real harmful intent.

The don't taze my self-esteem generation and other assorted loons desperately need to learn that lesson.

BTW: I have no problem with a person being loud, or even loud and wrong, as long as they have no problem with the consequences which will surely result from their actions.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

And did not the woman immediately get taken down and thrown out of the room.

Gryph. The way I saw it, the idiot had plenty of time to drive a ceramic shiv into Dr Rice's gut if she so wanted to.
Or between the 4th and 5th rib for that matter.

Personally I wish Condi would have put a firm hand palm to the nose. That smarts.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

Rich Casebolt. I've got plenty of grease!

Information is mostly free.

[chetek]

Deebow;

Regarding your article on "Fire the DSS and Keep Blackwater...
Posted By Deebow " STFU when you don't know what you are talking about, at least do a little research before you attack someone... While inside the Capitol, where Secretary Rice was speaking -- it is the Capitol Police responsibility to protect dignitaries. DSS is not permitted to be inside that area with the Secretary, thanks to Congress, and the Capitol police enforcing those regulations. So while you were attacking DSS you left those that were responsible for her protection off the hook. I can only hope that you are not, and were not, an intell officer. Next time you decide to target an agency -- do me a favor, check and verify your information before you make an a.. out of yourself again. I think you should take some time and look into this and reprint an apology to DSS - I am hoping that you can admit when you are wrong.