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Meeting Scott Beauchamp

Posted By Blackfive

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Yes, I have met and talked with Scott. 

It was a good conversation, and I enjoyed meeting him.  I had heard a lot of good things about him as a soldier from the people who know him, and the leaders above him.

What we talked about? 

That's between us. 

What I can say is that he is not being held incommunicado in an undisclosed location with Dick Cheney, and that I found an interesting person that I enjoyed meeting.

LW (in Iraq)

September 30, 2007 • Permalink
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Why did Scott falsify his stories in a way that cast soldiers in the worst possible light? What prompted him to join the military? Just curious.

I understand why you would want to meet him. An interesting person...I can see that. I just don't understand the 'enjoyed meeting'. Are there behind the scenes information that we are not privy? Did he capture your heart as the good soldier that just did a stupid thing?

With the information that I have I can only loathe this soldier. Maybe that will change with future information, but he still has not publicly apologized for spiting on the Army and his fellow soldiers. That must happen for any reconciliation. As it stands he is simply a John Kerry want-a-be.

I'm just a tad curious myself Jordan. Guess we are gonna have to trust LW on this . I'm sure the truth will come out eventually, just like we get little dribs and drabs about the WMDs too. The Battle goes on!

a john kerry wanna be wouldnt surprise me in the least either

Laughing Wolf - I am sure there are many soldiers who have heard a lot of good things about REP Murtha's service as a U.S. Marine. It matters not anymore. Just as REP Murtha's despicable actions in smearing the U.S. Marine Corps trumps anything good he did as a soldier, in my eyes, so too does the smearing effort Scott Beauchamp did to his fellow soldiers (and the war effort and U.S. military in general) trumps anything good he did/does as a soldier, in my eyes.

I seriously do not understand this goodwill some of you seem to want to give to these types of people who are doing their damndest to smear the entire U.S. military in the eyes of the world. We are in a DEAD serious information war here. It is unacceptable for people to just play games like this and then be deemed okay. The kind of nonsense spewed by the Beauchamps of the military and of our government are then spread throughout the Arab and Muslim world as propaganda used against us and used to inflame our enemies and the ignorant of the Muslim/Arab world.

This kind of thing should be taken seriously as propaganda is part of the anti-COIN effort of our enemies.

Reading these kinds of kind things said by you about this guy irritates me, because it makes me feel that the military is not cracking down on guys like this who seriously jeopardize our COIN efforts to win hearts and minds of the Iraqis and those back home here in America.

The guy smears the entire US military and undermines our mission and all you write about him is he seems like a interesting person and people who know him consider him a good soldier?

Wonderful. That will definitely stop people from doing that kind of thing in the future. The guy is a household name now with a bright future in storytelling and smearing for the Left, but hey, he's a good soldier, so more power to him.

I'm sorry, this is very irritating, Laughing Wolf.

Even moreso that the heroes of this war effort are not known, yet this guy will be known. And apparently known as an intersting guy and a good soldier.

I'd like to know what makes him a good soldier and interesting guy, other than the fact that in his down time he enjoys making stuff up to smear the guys in his unit.

LW,

It was cool that you met and talked with him.

Scott Thomas Beauchamp,
For what you did, two words...SU*K IT!

A GOOD soldier supports his fellow soldiers, his command and his country. A GOOD soldier does not besmirch his brothers in arms, his commanders or his country. A GOOD soldier does not lie. A GOOD soldier does not join the military to further his personal ambitions at the expense of the military. Scott Thomas Beachamp is NOT a good soldier.

No disrespect LW but I'm sure Hillary and Bill would be interesting to talk to as well. Just a thought. Stay Safe

While I think your attempt to reach out to the young Pvt admirable, I cant think of a thing he could say that would change my opinion of him as a whiny Lefty douche. As to why he joined, he already said it was to establish his cred as a "Veteran" when he speaks out against the war. He's an enlisted Ehren Watada. I take that back, at least Beauchamp got on the plane.

Why did you bring this man up if you are not going to address the only reason we, the public, have heard of him? I'm not much of a game player. If he was misrepresented, then tell me. If he wasn't, then let me know. Otherwise don't bother me with teasers.

Beauchamp probably cares a bit more about how his officers above him and the men whom he serves beside feel about him than all that has been written about him.

m'kay, I'm going to trust you a bit here.....but what if Jesse MacBeth is an interesting person???

Like I said, I'm going to trust you a bit.....you knew what reaction this would get and you said it anyway....

I gotta agree with MAJHAM, what's the point of this post? So you got to meet him but your conversation was apparently off the record. Why not just keep the whole thing to yourself? I wouldn't cross the street to spit on this guy if he was on fire, much less have an off the record sit down with him and then post some vague comments that look like you're in favor of redeeming this guy. What gives?

People, there has been the question that STB was being held against his will or that he was forbidden to talk to the press about this. LW is demonstrating that this is not so.

I too don't think that STB will return a changed man, but I did post about how I hoped he would take his punishment and soldier on in this war as he committed to do on by his oath of enlistment. It appears that he is.

There's more here and there's a reason for LW's post. I hope we can share the rest of it with you, soon.

LW and B5, I trust you two implicitly...so I'm just gonna wait patiently for the rest of the story. Thanks for all you do.

I think LW is seeing if we're awake out here. That guy is a piece of crappola. Whatever is learned, I don't think we will learn that he didn't lie or embellish (for his own gain, mind you), or that his wife's piece of crappola journal actually fact checked his convenient story. But I'm game for reading anything else that can be learned.

This is totally unrelated, but hey Matt, you see those game scores? Pack won, Bears lost! Who is 4-0? Well it ain't da Bears! (Sorry, gotta rub it in.)

Sorry for my ignorance (real Blackfive not imagined!) but can someone fill me in on the 'conclusion' to Scott B's "lies/truths"? Were his articles all lies? Were there mixed truths (representative non-truths maybe)? Or was it all a load of hokey?

Thanks

J R!!! It's GREAT to see you posting here. You and your lovely bride are in my daily prayers. Thank you.

Glad to see your time over there is well spent.

Screw Beauchump. Who gives a crap about him LW? Glad you had a “good conversation” and that you “found an interesting person” WTF ever.

I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt but I don’t take kindly to being played, especially when it comes to the serious business of war and the internal enemies among us. From the other comments it seems I’m not alone.

Totally confused & not getting the joke. This is a joke right?

JR - while no fan of the Pack, I respect Brett Favre immensely to the level that I have been wishing for, oh say, a decade that he was a Bear. I'll have a Kroll's cheeseburger in your honor later...

I watched the Illinois game while at school on Saturday - at least the Fighting Illini look good this year (for once). And trying to get Cubs playoff tickets for Wrigley now.

You know what? I despise what SB did, but if he's straightened out his act, good for him. I have no doubt at all his mates in Iraq have extracted whatever penalty they felt was appropriate. Maybe they're still doing so. If he's man enough to take his lumps, and does, and does his duty, I'm done with him.

How. Dare. You.

A good soldier? Are you F'n kidding me?

Good soldiers are listed here in the "Someone you should know" section.

Calling him a good soldier, or even applying the word soldier to him, places him in the same category as me, JR, and even Matt.

SBC isn't even in the same genome as us. If he's repented, recovered from punishment, serving honorably (now) doesn't matter.

Some errors are unrecoverable. Slandering your brothers in arms falls into that category, IMHO.

"Soldier" is a term I would never apply to that POS. No, I've never met him, and I do trust your judgment. Charlie Manson is an interesting personality. Pol Pot was an interesting personality. Neither are or were "good" people. If his Chain of Command characterizes him as such, I have very strong doubts about their leadership, character, and judgment.

I am a good soldier.

--Chuck

A little reading comprehension here, guys.

"I had heard a lot of good things about him as a soldier"

That's not saying he's a "good soldier" or a "good person." It's saying he has shown some good qualities. He's a human being, not a cartoon.

"It was a good conversation, and I enjoyed meeting him. ... I found an interesting person that I enjoyed meeting."

Could have been said of Saddam Hussein (before they hung him up like a side of beef).

The important point to the post being: "he is not being held incommunicado"

Anyone who thinks we've heard the last from STB is seriously deluding themselves. Expect him to be the latest Daily Kos darling upon his return stateside. "Those Swiftboating conservatives and milbloggers were mean to me! How dare they question the absolute moral authority of someone fighting an 'actual war.' Rush called me a 'phony soldier.'"

"Cut off heads, blown up bodies...in a fashion reminiscent of 'Jenghis' Khan..."

I'd enjoy meeting him too, just for different reasons that he clearly wouldn't enjoy. He's nothing but just another MySpace poseur who just makes the rest of our daily lives harder, not easier. And no, I won't be voting for him in 2036.

LW,

I guess I'm just going to have to trust you on this one. I get it that he's not being held incommunicado and that Franky Foer was lying about that one also. But, to say that he was someone you enjoyed meeting, and then to hold the rest of the conversation off the table seems a bit odd. Why not ask STB to go on the record: did he or did he not lie. If he did (seems pretty obvious to me), then why did he lie and smear his fellow soldiers and the US military?

In the mean time, as far as I'm concerned, the guy is a piece of crap a la J F'n Kerry.

Jim C

LW,

Michelle Malkin claims that you were being sarcastic here. She may be right, but I have to say this doesn't sound very sarcastic.

In the interest of clarity, is this part true? Or is it just cleverly concealed sarcasm?

"I had heard a lot of good things about him as a soldier from the people who know him, and the leaders above him."

Seems strange that a blogger/journalist would have a conversation with such a divisive character and then say 'I'm not going to talk about it.'

http://drudgereport.com/flash8.htm

Scott Beauchamp is a lieing scumbag!!!! he deserves the wrath of his fellow soldiers...interesting fellow my ass!!!!

"Beauchamp Refuses to Stand by Story"

"Beauchamp Admits to "Gross Exaggerations and Inaccurate Allegations"

Army Investigation: Tales "Completely Fabricated," Beauchamp Wanted to be Hemingway


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