US, French & United Nations victorious in Iraq

Posted By Uncle Jimbo

I think my man Petraeus is stealing a march on the left and the Democrats. He has already been floating the idea of troop reductions next year, but the beauty is that he is considering them because his cunning plan is working. I don't mean to engage in the cult of Petraeus, and I consider the effort to support and fight this war very widespread indeed, but as I said before right man, place & time.

Now here is why this tactic is such a brilliant one. The howling from the left comes largely in the form of Bring the Troops Home. By making troop reductions part of the post-surge COIN strategy he takes the heart out of the opposition. The reason for bringing the troops home had as much to do with declaring a defeat on W and the neo-con imperialist cabal as it ever did with genuine concern for the soldiers. By co-opting the Bring the Troops Home message the defeat cannot be declared and even worse the specter of victory is actually looming and that is very bad news for a party that has done all it can to lose the war. Man those videos of all the defeat-mongers are going to sting. I wonder if they still have that Mission Accomplished banner, wouldn't that just make their freakin' heads explode? All right I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but you have to have goals.

The battle on the ground in Iraq is actually going as well as it has for us, the war back here is also gaining traction. The question becomes what constitutes a victory and how can we accomplish that in the information war? I believe if an Oil law is passed and a formal reconciliation process is begun, then we should formally end Operation Iraqi Freedom and begin a nation-building and reconstruction program in conjunction with the UN and our French Allies. I just actually got a warm fuzzy at the prospect of the French Foreign Legion cracking skulls in Sadr City. Now before you come at me with "You are one crazy Mo.." stop for a second and examine the subtlety and nuance abounding. We can announce now that we are working with the UN to devise just such a program and we steal another theme because if the UN is in it's not W's war. Plus if you want to credit the UN with a useful function vaccinating poor kids and this would be as good as you could do. A country brutalized by a dictator, 50 Million freed from tyranny by US blood and treasure, and now the need for reconciliation and reconstruction. If they serve any function it ought to be this one.

And I'm not kidding about the French, they may be cheese-eating surrender monkeys, but Vive la Mort, vive la Guerre, vive le sacré mercenaire. I don't think anyone on our team would be sad to see the Legion march in at their customary slow crawl. So we brand it with UN blue and French tri-colors and now it's nation-buildng and peace-keeping Hurrah!

Did anybody catch the really good news in this not improbable scenario? That's right, it would mean we won. Yea! No seriously it will be hard to pry a victory from the cold dead hands of the defeateds. The press will hate having to credit the idiot cowboy and the rest of the left will fight tooth and nail to deny vindication of this war of aggression we were lied into. Trust me the end game with them will be no picnic, but with a French President who vacations in New Hampshire and got filmed wearing an FDNY t-shirt I'm opening my mind to all kinds of new and old ideas. I mean we were allies with France once, right?

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[Jamison1]

Sadr wants the UN in Iraq too. He wants to do in Iraq what Hezbullah and the UN have done in Lebanon.

[tommygun]

Uncle Jimbo,

When I think of open mindedness I always think of you :)

I hope you are right about this because SRN is reporting that we are looking to make an exit through Jordan and Turkey. Hopefully they mean next year and not Oct 1st.

[MICHAEL in MI]

While I agree with you on the positive propaganda of having the UN involved, Uncle Jimbo, I gotta disagree with its implementation. Just go back to how well the UN did after we left Mogadishu, Somalia. They massacred the "peacekeepers" and then they begged President Clinton to intervene with our Special Forces. Which then led to one of the key examples of US incompetency and lack of will: Black Hawk Down. Then, as Jamison mentioned, we have the utterly useless and incompetent UN in Lebanon, which has allowed Hezb'Allah to rearm and prepare for its next war with Israel.

Sounds like a nice idea, but implementing it is another story. Actually, it sounds like a nice *political* idea, but as far as something that will actually succeed, it sounds like a bad idea. When I say good *politically*, I mean that President Bush can work all this great positive propaganda of working with the UN and the French and all that, and then leave office feeling pretty good. Then of course, when the UN fails and the French turn tail and run, we'll have Mogadishu, Somalia post-American withdrawal in 1992-1993 all over again. And the next President will have to deal with a HUGE mess, only worse this time.

[rgrmom82]

PO Marcus Luttrell is on FOX NOW> 8:21 EST

Won't find that in the NYT.
For all Ya'all's dissing of FNC...still beats the rest.

[rgrmom82]

OMG he's gorgeous and *swoon*

[jordan]

We're going to exit through Turkey and Jordan? Turkey wouldn't let us come in that way, I don't think they'll let us go out that way. Of course, the Arab press will turn it into, "U.S. Invades Turkey and Jordan!"

Outstanding UJ, where's the sign, who's got the sign. Better get it fixed up and ready. Just in case.

The UN concurred with getting rid of Saddam, and the stamp of legitimacy their presence can provide political leverage in the stay/go debate.

If France's new leadership suddenly appreciates the importance of not allowing the global terrorist scourge even the slightest victory, so much the better. But I'm not quite ready to go back to French wine just yet. These things take...time.

[rgrmom82]

...And when I came to, I raised my hand in supplication and said..."Lord, if you could make me ten years younger, I'd be all over that".

Sorry, hijacked your thread!
I'm OK now, jez fannin myself
and....*blush*

I am so glad he's out there telling his story. God Bless that young man...and his absent companions.

[liyak]

Pet is repeating what DC is planning!That's all a Commader
can do,from the political point.

[Caper2]

Well maybe we ought to try to exit through Syria and Iran.

It seems convenient that way and heck it worked for Sherman.
:)

El Coqui

[Arch]

UJ-

UN military involvement is a bad idea. They're always under strength, too lightly armed. If the blue helmets show up, they serve one function well - a prepositioned pool of hostages.

When Sarkozy was elected, I went out and bought a case of Bordeaux. The eloquence of the man. When the French press referred to the car burning mobs as "groups of youths", Sarko called them "Écume (Scum)." Scum they are.

Arch

[liontooth]

Is the political view in the US continuing to accept that progress is happening in Iraq?

#1 KANSAS CITY, Mo. - New military tactics in Iraq are working but the best way to honor U.S. soldiers is "by beginning to bring them home," Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told war veterans Monday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070821/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_iraq_6

Yeah, she thinks we should still leave, BUT this is a b-slap to Reid who claimed it was already lost. It would be a huge deal if non-eunuch Republicans would harp on this 'division/dissension' within the Democratic party.

#2 Rep. Brian Baird voted against the Iraq war, but the Washington state Democrat now says the United States should stay in Iraq as long as it takes to ensure stability to the war-torn country.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420AP_WA_Iraq_Baird.html

[Grimmy]

The UN is expanding into Iraq? So, hezbulla wants to set up shop in Baghdad, eh?

[john Ryan]

When you refer to the "howling of the left" do you mean all those who are left of where you are standing ? Or all those who are to the left of the center ?
I think everyone knows that the troops are going to be coming home/re-deploying/surrendering/leaving Iraq whatever you want to call it beginning next year. This is not going to be because of the power of the left, it is because the center of American politics will be demanding it. Republican politicans will get clobbered if they continue to vote pro war. 3 of the top 4 Republicans in the House of Representatives have announced that they will not be seeking re-election in 2008.
As for the dissension/division in the Democratic party there has always been a wide range of views within the party. It may be ione of its strengths. On the Republican side we can see how the tight discipline may make it difficult for some canidates to receive full backing from their party members if they are perceived as being slightly out of step on such trigger issues as abortion.

[David M]

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[Rich Casebolt]

When you refer to the "howling of the left" do you mean all those who are left of where you are standing ? Or all those who are to the left of the center ?

Could be both -- UJ's viewpoint is far more nuanced than you give him credit for; he is not the Bushbot you make him out to be.

Those he decries are truly left-of-center .... since the left-of-center has dominated the leadership of the Democrat Party for years, especially in their present mode of kissing up to the Soros/MoveOn mobs and Kos-hacks.

That is why there is such a thing as a Reagan Democrat.

I think everyone knows that the troops are going to be coming home/re-deploying/surrendering/leaving Iraq whatever you want to call it beginning next year. This is not going to be because of the power of the left, it is because the center of American politics will be demanding it. Republican politicans will get clobbered if they continue to vote pro war.

Then why do we see support for the war ... and approval for the Prez ... going up in those polls y'all love -- while approval of THIS Congress is so low?

Patton had it right ... the American people love a winner, and will not back a loser.

And the Dem leadership is invested in losing ... because their base is so paranoid about the existence of a strong America, they want us to lose just to "put us in our place". This puts the political animals at the top in a real lose-lose position.

If we do pull out, it will be for the same reasons as Vietnam ... too many start believing the "faulty intelligence" put out by the other institution dominated by the Left ... and believe that the PRUDENT actions of this Administration are futile, therefore the Administration is a loser.

3 of the top 4 Republicans in the House of Representatives have announced that they will not be seeking re-election in 2008.

Keep straining those gnats, John.

I thank them for realizing they need to make way for others to serve ... it doesn't mean that they will be replaced by the opposition, though.

And you know, more of them would be leaving if we all got behind term limits, but that would mean the Dems you depend upon to Save the Legacy of Woodstock Nation would be going, too.

As for the dissension/division in the Democratic party there has always been a wide range of views within the party. It may be ione of its strengths. On the Republican side we can see how the tight discipline may make it difficult for some canidates to receive full backing from their party members if they are perceived as being slightly out of step on such trigger issues as abortion.

If there is a "wide range of views", it is smothered by the slavish homage to Soros/MoveOn/Kos-hacks.

Besides, when was the last time a pro-life Dem got to go to the podium at their convention? Where is there pro-life candidate for President -- after all, the GOP has pro-choice Rudy?

And if you want to see how they treat dissenters who do make it out from under the moonbat blanket, two words:

Joe Liebermann.

You are just parrotting the prejudiced, stereotypical view of conservatives as sheep ...

... not realizing that it is those who wish to subordinate their authority and responsibility for solving problems to the "ex-spurt" shepherds in government and academia, who are the ones that are more easily led to the shears ...

... or the slaughter.

[Ymarsakar]

The UN will come and the new Overlords shall be them.

[liyak]

The only thing working in Iraq,is the death toll!Politics is doing nada!The Iraqi system is suicidal.