Harry Reid- I'm surrendering as fast as I can

Posted By Uncle Jimbo

I often wonder what goes on in the heads of people like the awful Harry Reid, as he does everything within his power to try to defeat our military. I can't find a way to credit his good will any more. He is either certifiable or he prefers an Al Qaeda win to a US one. I realize that some of the Democrats are still claiming that our withdrawal will clear the way for peace, 'cuz the Iraqis really love each other, they just hated occupation. Riigghhtt.

No, most of the left has gone all the way to calling Iraq a loss, and gee Zawahiri noticed and used that to try and rally his troops. Ya' see Z and the dying in bunches jihadis know something the defeateds here don't. They are taking a severe ass-whippin'.

That is actually part of the reason for the clown cars emptying out in front of the Senate, with Harry and his heroic band of losers (of the war of course) steaming in to do anything but consider victory. Harry has no ideas, no strategy, and honestly no clue. If he believes the words that spew from his face he is fine with an Iraqi slaughter of Bibli-Koranic proportions, and granting Al Qaeda a victory, as well as leaving a vacuum that Iran will turn into another client state. But he will be damned if he will countenance any more of this victory talk.

I just can't wrap my tiny little brain around how he thinks allowing those things to happen makes us safer in any way. I guess at the reductio ad absurdum level the troops who come home will be safer, but unlike Harry they also understand that winning this war makes a nuclear Iran with expansionist intentions less likely. Let alone the mayhem a currently reeling Al Qaeda in Iraq could wreak if given the chance to rest and refit in a lawless Iraq. They know that AQ would call this a win and that would give all kinds of punks with jihad in mind a huge morale boost. The Dems cry that Iraq is a recruiting tool for AQ and they are right, that is an unintended consequence, but it ignores the fact that these recruits are being swatted like flies. It's not like some elite cadre of super-terrorists has been trained who now have the most fantastic methods for burying bombs in the dirt. The only major improvement to the first IED came from Iran, not AQ and the thousands of jihadi cannon fodder who have blown themselves up or been returned to their component molecules by precision munitions.

Al Qaeda was already at war with us everywhere on earth before we went into Iraq. They now have decided that is as good a place as any for the battle to restore the Caliphate and because some war opponents predicted that, they declare another defeat. Wrong, it is hardly ideal but honestly the terrain and the people of Iraq are much more favorable to us than the Pakistan/Afghan border where we had very little chance of a major military operation yielding Bin Laden or others. Matter of fact we learned that we just flat can't operate in those areas well enough to do more damage to the bad guys than they can to us. This is made even less possible because of the tender hold Musharraf actually has on power in Pakistan. We never had permission to cross into Pakistan in force to chase bad guys as that would have brought a civil war there. So Musharraf tried appeasement as one of many bad moves he had to choose from and ceded Waziristan to AQ , and the other extremists in the area. Well that civil war he was avoiding was likely kicked off by the recent Red Mosque beat down and we may actually get permission to help save his ass by laying some scunion on the crazies up in Waziristan to stop them Islamifying the whole country.

So again the idea that Iraq is some terrorist Shangri-La is just silly. The bulk of the recruits get the keys to an old Toyota and a map to the market. Some freakin' super genius it takes to mastermind that. Now, if there was just a  car ferry to America. The only thing the Caliphate Crusaders have learned is that Americans are still weak as schoolgirls when it comes to blood and struggle. They know they just need to outlast our attention and outrage span, because we sure don't have a knack for strategery. We would rather feel good right now, than understand that we will reap a whirlwind that will cost so much more if we leave in defeat.

So here we are, surge troops in place and kickin' ass, COIN strategy showing gains and before we can even get a report from the Commander making it happen, we have the defeateds surrendering as fast as they can.

Harry needs to lose this war before Petraeus and the COIN strategy powered by the bad asses of our military wins the damn thing. I'm betting on the real men & women v. the thin-lipped, milquetoast, cream-in-the-coffee, cadaver.

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Comments

[douglas]

I guess Pace's visit and declaration of a positive "sea change" aren't going help Harry out much, eh?

[warvet48]

Everything you say is exactly as it is, and I'm praying that our troops get to finish the job, however long it takes, before Reid and the surrendercrats screw things up.
All this talk about how we're facing new attacks in the U.S. now from AQ because they're getting stronger. What do they think it will be like when Iraq is nothing more than a terrorist state?
Reid and most of these democrats have their heads up their a$$es. I don't for the life of me understand how they can say we've already lost, much less we quit and leave Iraq. They are cowards and traitors in my book.

[bthun]

"The only thing the Caliphate Crusaders have learned is that Americans are still weak as schoolgirls when it comes to blood and struggle. They know they just need to outlast our attention and outrage span, because we sure don't have a knack for strategery. We would rather feel good right now, than understand that we will reap a whirlwind that will cost so much more if we leave in defeat."

Another direct hit on the big ole SMITE button there UJ.

I would encourage you to run for any political office that would displace one of the head-in-the-sand, run-away, run-away politico's in your area, but I think we are better off with you calling em out for us.

[OldSoldier54]

"I often wonder what goes on in the heads of people like the awful Harry Reid"

Me too, UJ, and I intend on finding out in September. Being as I'm a citizen of Nevada, I have an open invite, while visiting DC. We'll see how it goes at GOE III.

[Jim]

UJ,

The problem is that I think this is more about defeat of GWB and Republicans than surrender to AQ for Harry and the Democrat freak show. You see, they see GWB and the Republicans as more of a threat to their power and survival than AQ is.

The horrible part of all of it is that the Democrats are willing to sell our country up the river to achieve and maintain power by making GWB and the Republicans look bad in the GWOT.

Jim C

[Uncle Jimbo]

Ya' know Jim,

I wish you weren't so right, that just makes it sadder.

Cordially,

Uncle J

[CitSAR]

All things considered, I smell a rope a dope in progress. Were I a Democrat I would shut up now before I get hung with my own words... "America will not tolerate a looser..."

[Basil Riverdale]

I lived in Washington and worked the Hill for many years. A pure political animal like Harry Reid has but one motivation: personal power. There is no set of core beliefs behind such animals other than, "I want to be in charge." Of course, if you come from a culture that values duty, honor and truth, of course you're going to have a hard time understanding the likes of Harry Reid. You have personal integrity; Harry has only personal ambition. An honest man is shamed by his moral failures; Reid doesn't know the meaning of shame. He's amoral to the bone. He would sacrifice a brigade of marines, or a million Iraqi innocents without a pang of conscience if it meant more personal power. Sadly, he is typical of those drawn to power. The whole lot needs to be wiped out by a massive revolt by the electorate. But I'm not holding my breath. Power doesn't necessarily corrupt, witness the life of one George Washington, but I'm quite convinced that the corruptible among us are drawn to power. A confidence man knows a mark when he sees it even if it includes the entire populace of a nation-state. Harry Reid should have topped out in a used car lot somewhere in Reno. That he didn't is the fault of Nevada voters. Someone needs to do him . . . at the ballot box, of course.

[Ymarsakar]

The barbarians can't get through the siege walls that are keeping them out. So they make a call to their buddy Harry that is inside the walls to let them in, in return for the status of plenipotentiary after the sacking of the city. Reid said, let's bring it on.

[jordan]

Watched a few of the speeches. The question of why the Dems are taking these destructive steps against the troops, who have already embarked on the Congress-approved surge strategy, has yet to be brought up.

When they unanimously confirmed Petraeus and his COIN strategy, all agreed to a Sept. sitrep. Suddenly, they changed their minds and want to renege on that, AFTER resources and planning for operations through the summer have already been spent, not to mention blood, sweat and tears.

That planning was done envisioning Sept. as the time that it's relative success or failure would be judged. So now, we're supposed to pretend they really meant July, not Sept.

In Time mag in May, Joe Klein wrote about a conversation he had with Sen. Jane Harmon, D., after the first funding bill was argued over in May.

Sen. Harmon told him, "I would have loved to cast a vote against Bush on this...But I just flew into Baghdad on a troop transport with 100 of those kids, heading into the field. To vote against this bill was to vote against giving them the equipment and armor they need, and I JUST COULDNT DO THAT."

But I guess others can.

[Richard Aubrey]

You'll note that Jane Harmon, the "d" good guy saw the vote as a vote against Bush. Not against the war, not against a particular strategy of the war.
Against Bush. It killed her not to be able to vote against Bush
And she's the best they've got.
Damn

[jordan]

That's right, Richard. But the greater irony is that after she told Klein that, he went to press with it as if the vote had already happened. Unbeknownst to him, Harmon changed her mind at the last minute. Klein got egg on his face and made journalistic apologies. (May issue).

[SlimGuy]

Some people forget military history. All here should read this article about how you can even win a war but lose the outcome due to shear loss of political will.

Oh and this is not an article about Viet Nam.

[Some Soldier's Mom]

I have listened to some of the Senate speeches today (note to self: have large drink before putting on C-Span) -- and the Dems and an occasional "Republican" are spending so much of their time listing all the "senseless acts of violence" occuring in Iraq... and assuring anyone who is listening that if we just pull out our troops it will allow the Iraqis to "restore order"... all the "senseless violence" will end (I assume they mean "in good time".) So along that line, I suppose if we take all the cops and firefighters off American streets, there will be no more crime or fires?!

I also find it sadly amusing that I can count on one hand the number of times these same Senators have uttered "al Queda" -- but usually toblame "the War" for the rise in al Queda.

And finally, I hear Harry Reid and his party members calling on us to hold the Iraqi politicians responsible for all the ills of Iraq -- when they won't take the same responsibility HERE .

If you want to be reminded who voted "Yea" to use force in Iraq, ge here:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

Message to Congress: Support the surge. Complete the mission.

[Ymarsakar]

That's right, Richard. But the greater irony is that after she told Klein that, he went to press with it as if the vote had already happened. Unbeknownst to him, Harmon changed her mind at the last minute. Klein got egg on his face and made journalistic apologies. (May issue).

Posted by: jordan | July 17, 2007 at 09:32 PM

I think it was the other way around, Jordan. Or maybe they both got eggs. Deservedly so. One got caught lying and "misleading", and the other got caught by having a source that burned him. A reporter is only as good as his or her sources. Bad sources=bad reporting.

This is why any strategy on Bush's part to undermine or counter-act the media must prioritize the sources of the media first and foremost. Obtain control of sources, and you obtain control of what the media writes. Dan Rather's incident is a good lesson of that.

[Ymarsakar]

Thanks for the link, Slim. Very enlightening. Course, Spark will be unhappy with the helicopter bit, even if it scares the freak out of terrorists/insurgents/guerrilas. They never did like Fast Reaction forces. It's too much of a threat of losing your experienced leaders on an op to helicopter gunships, if someone told the Americans where to find you all.

Too much of that and it'll be Tet light. Too bad the cadres in Iran are inviolable.

[Wink]

[quote]Power doesn't necessarily corrupt, witness the life of one George Washington, but I'm quite convinced that the corruptible among us are drawn to power. [/quote]

very nicely said, but what made George Washington different?

Valley Forge, Bunker Hill, Crossing the Delaware. He KNEW that he was made president on the backs of men at least his equal, if not his better. He had starved in a freezing fort, he had known violent, immediate death up close and personal. And he had a respect for war, the type of respect that said never again.. and if we must, we do it to the death because thats the only way. Humility in leadership inspires the masses.Some of the greatest officers and bosses I have ever had the honor of working with were not power hounds, they were given power due to their ability, and seldom did they seek it out. When it was placed upon them, there was humility and a slight unworthyness to them that showed they felt they were no better than their peers, and were blessed to lead such men. Even in the workplace, my current Boss is that type of man.

Look at our war generals who went on to be president, not a lot of them that were power hungry types, they knew power, real power.. and they respected it for what it was. Eisenhower is often mocked for being the "Invisible President".. thats not a bad thing, he did what needed doing, and didnt feel the need to pound his own chest daily on TV. We are starving as a nation for a man like that, somebody who understand power and wont shy away from it.. but would accept it humbly, and look at the job of leading this nation, not as a rule .. but as a fellow citizen tasked with an awesome responsibility.

none of the current crowd fit that bill in my opinion. But look at the leaders in Iraq/Afghanistan in the past 4 years.. and tell me what sort of Man Patreus is? and then tell me how you think he would govern?

Not saying draft the man for office, just making a comparison between him and Clinton/Obama/Edwards/Romney & Juliani..

[Basil Riverdale]

On the nature of power and those who seek it we can all agree. I see Patreus as a Cincinnatus or Solon. A military man would never survive the media onslaught to become an elected president. There is only one power that can install him as leader, and as yet conditions have not deteriorated to the point where our military would move against an elected government. But if America gets hit again like 9/11, this time with something like a suitcase nuke, the military will be obliged to move in order to save the republic. To ignore the reality of nuclear terrorism, is to bring that day nigh. The sleeping giant is not yet fully awake. If he is provoked, our enemies will know a wrath like the world has never seen. If our politicians continue to squabble even as civilization stands on a precipice, the result will be preordained. We live in dangerous times.

[SemperFi Wife]

I watched some of the speeches yesterday.
It's a damn good thing that the guns are locked up or there'd be a smoking hole in the middle of my tv screen.

I just couldn't believe what they were doing.

[jordan]

The sleepover has done it's job. It pretty much crowded out any positive news out of Iraq that might undercut the Dem's position.

The Diyala tribes just signed a peace treaty, the Sadrist bloc ended their boycott and returned to government, another big operation underway in Babil province, a massive reenlistment of 600 troops in Iraq, and a kickass reenlistment photo on Capt B.'s blog of injured Cpl Hawkins.

Not to mention the Iraq national soccer team's win against Oman, which advances it to the quarterfinals in the Asian Cup games.

They should have some kind of support celebration for the soccer team, so all the different sects have something to rally around. To have performed like this from a country beseiged by warfare is nothing short of amazing.

These guys want to win, and they obviously have the will. These wins could be adding to momentum if publicized enough.

[jordan]

BTW, I'm researching ways to keep our people cool over there, with things like instant cold packs inside your tshirt, cold patches like the ones for kids with fevers to put on chest or tummy under clothes, etc... If there's any reason why these might be a problem, please advise, anybody.

[twolaneflash]

A "sleep-over against the war": how John Edwards that is, with marshmallows and all. You could not write a better Hollywood script about treason, or cast a more perfect character for traitorous enemy of The Republic than Harry Reid (Whore, Nevada). Has Harry been tested for STDs lately? AIDS dementia is a madness that exhibits similar disordered behaviours. I mean, after all, I wouldn't want to accuse Harry Reed (Prostitute, Nevada) of treason, sedition, and other capital offenses if he were, you know, just sick from a virus. Perhaps he can be quarantined until it can be determined. Gitmo has space available. Then, finding no medical basis for his psychopathic hatred of American victory and success in Iraq, Haram Harry can easily be moved into the jihadi section with his fellow co-conspirators for future disposition.

[SemperFi Wife]

Jordan,
I have a little experience with this...

[jcrue]

Here in Nevada we have started the effort to replace Reid already.

The slogan is "Daschle first, Reid next".

OldSoldier54 should join us on our blog and pick up a bumper sticker or two at http://www.opposereid.com

[David M]

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[RedInTexas]

Just found this National Review translation of captured internal AlQaeda "State of Security of the Caliphate' report. Interesting reading, they are clearly 1) feeling the heat, and 2) very dependent on the defeatocrats and media in the US to help them achieve victory.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTVjN2UzYzhjZjk4ZTU2MjExZmExMmYwMWRjYTgwMTk=

[john Ryan]

Do you believe that elected politicians should vote in ways that reflect the wishes of their constituents ?
Iraq has deeply divided our country a little bit of respect for the beliefs of fellow citizens might reduce this division.

[The WatchCat]

The Dems cry that Iraq is a recruiting tool for AQ and they are right, that is an unintended consequence"

Of course it's a recruiting tool. Are we supposed to be surprised by that? But 1) If we we never set foot in Iraq, they'd blame us for something else, and 2) If our efforts to stabilize the region have become a recruiting tool, what do the Dems really think will happen if we abandon the Iraqis to an unstable situation?

Oh, wait, it's all Bush's fault for taking us there to begin with. It doesn't matter whether we made good or bad decisions after that, so long as we can blame Bush for the original scenario. Anything bad that happens we'll pin on Bush, anything good gets credited to the Iraqi people....

The Democrats value empathy and listening to the "under-represented" to the point of overriding established common sense and the guidance of experienced leaders. I can say this without malice because I spent a couple years in that mentality. They believe that by acting on empathy, they will elicit the goodwill of the other side and arrive at a harmonious conclusion. It is inconceivable to them that the other side wants to screw everyone over. They lack the foresight to see how our enemy will place our actions in the worst possible light.

While the debates rage over what will happen if we withdraw from Iraq before it is stabilized, there is little doubt among experts that whatever happens will be messy at best. We're going to get blamed for every problem that occurs for many decades to come. That is a terrorist recruiting ground to fear. Every issue we stabilize in Iraq narrows the recruiting base.

[P0PS]

Just for the record,
I don't like this guy either.Harry Reid (whore from Nevada)priceless. Can you just imagine what his version of ROE look like! When confronted by the enemy, Stick you head between your knees and Kiss your ass good buy!
I wish I could come up with something intelligent to say about this guy and his cohorts. But, I just can't. They make me sick.The concept of seeing this job thru until the successful completion of our mission is beyond them.
Pops

[liontooth]

Harry Reid has lost how many Senate votes now?

[referman]

I think somebody should e-mail the dems,Michael YONS story about the small village in Iraq,Al Hamira.If some of you haven't read this story you should,it shows just how dispicable these scumbags are,and they want us to turn Iraq over to them.I pray not.Reid needs to STFU and quit embarassing the good people of nevada. Semper Fi

[jordan]

John Ryan, the point is you can't go by popularity polls when it comes to war policy. You have to depend on the structure laid out in the Constitution, with Congress holding the power of the purse on war, and the President executing the war. I'm sure during the Normandy landings, after casualty numbers and bloody photos came out, the public opinion polls would have demanded an immediate withdrawal from Europe, leaving Hitler to prevail.

Americans change their opinions at the drop of a hat. One month it's send more troops, next month it's bring them all home. Should their reps simply obediently trot along even if they know the long-term consequences would be harmful?

No, they should exercise leadership and think hard about long-term consequences, not next year's election.

But your point about the weight of public sentiment is an important one -- a military action can't be sustained long-term without it, something Bush should have understood and taken care to keep up.

[liyak]

Dude!I see that you aren't a "Warrior",
in the slightest.Cause your angle of perception,is a mirror showing the guy you
are dissing!