Ham Nation with Pete Hegseth of Vets for Freedom

Posted By Uncle Jimbo

Mary Katharine delivers an excellent talk with Pete Hegseth of Vets for Freedom who, along with about 40 other vets, showed up at Capitol Hill on the day of Harry Reid's sleepover. Somehow Harry had time for a bunch of clowns like MoveOn and other Soros tools, but Vets for Freedom isn't interested in losing the war so no time with the Dem leadership. Well a little skillful editing and voila.

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[Synova]

I think that as much as we rag on the media, ever since the Democrats got the majority in Congress they'd been starting to look a little closer and seem willing to be just a bit more impartial.

"Losing" in 2006 might turn out to be a good thing because it put the spotlight on people like Reid in a way that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

[kary123]

Vets for Freedom? Curious, whose freedom, the Shias or the Sunnis? The 70% of the Iraqis who think it's okay to blow away American soldiers? I don't care about freedom for those people.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

I think that as much as we rag on the media, ever since the Democrats got the majority in Congress they'd been starting to look a little closer and seem willing to be just a bit more impartial.

"Losing" in 2006 might turn out to be a good thing because it put the spotlight on people like Reid in a way that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

WHAT??????? (Ala the caveman in the Geico commercial after listening to the lady newscaster spit out some buzzword bingo analysis)

[Cincinnati_Bob]

I don't care about freedom for those people.

Don't ask why they won't care about your life either then, because now you know in advance.

What is it Kary123? Just a little too much effort on your part having to listen to stories about rightously great people dying and suffering to bring freedom and a chance for life to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq?

Maybe you think some of the money being spent should be redirected to you somehow.

Heck, clue us in.

Well, I hope you don't go around spouting how you support the troops, let alone jump on the 'take credit' bandwagon when we succeed in spite of people like yourself.

[kary123]

Interesting that you would bring that up Cinnci Bob....I actually think that maybe the $1 or 2 trillion we'll be spending in the fiasco known as the Iraq War would be better spent on, oh, I don't know, THE UNITED STATES! See, what you don't realize is that your tax dollars are being spent on a Shia government that is cahoots with Iran, and those people want to blow us up! And yet, you want to blow billions more on a region that is already lost, throwing good money after bad. So yeah, guilty as charged. I'd rather those dollars be put to good use finding Bin Laden and disrupting AL Qaeda, rather than being used to bring "freedom" to people that don't want it. And don't give the predictable crap about Iraq being the "central front in the war on terror". Read the NIE, and you'll get the hint.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

Kary123.

Who are we fighting in Iraq? Iran and Al Queerda mainly. Nuf said as far as I'm concerned.

We had ignored them from 1970 to 2001. We ended up with 9-11-2001, Not to mention USS Cole, WTC 93, etc. Your ignore plan has been proven to not work. It has been proven to make things worse.

Time to pay the bill for decades of incompetence and inaction. Look at history and see what happens when we don't finish something. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1991. And you want to go for number 4, for what? Money?

Concentrate on having the people in DC not stealing so much instead. They're coke heads for money.

[Synova]

Oh, that wasn't that weird a statement was it? It seems to me that the media is starting to turn just a wee bit of their "truth to power" focus on Democrats. MKH has a clip of Reid in there getting asked out-right what does he think will happen to Iraqis if we leave. I've noticed other times when media really isn't giving Dem leadership a pass. I don't think it's because the media has gotten less liberal, but I do think they have a serious part of their self-identity tied up in challenging those in power.

The media is also starting to report progress in Iraq, even the MSM as far as I can tell, even while scumbuckets like Reid are trying to surrender as fast as possible so they can get it over with before we end up winning.

Not a lot, mind you! Just more media attention on the possibility we might win and more media attention on just how bizarre the Democrat leadership is behaving than there was before.

As for Kary123.. Lets be clear that you aren't liberal. And I think it's clear you're not progressive. I'm not sure what political viewpoint is so unapologetically hostile, myopic, and selfish, but it's certainly not any of the ones that claim they care about people.

[kary123]

Cinci Bob,
Thanks for clarifying my political views for me. Being unapologetically hostile to a war that was fought for a lie and now is a quagmire with no end in sight, pardon me for teensy bit angry. Myopic? Maybe. Selfish? If you call wanting America to look after it's own interests and that of its citizens, then yes, I am selfish. If things are going so well, why is the Iraqi Parliament taking a month off while our boys are dying in hot sun?

[MICHAEL in MI]

"...a war that was fought for a lie and now is a quagmire with no end in sight,..."
Ignorant leftist talking points 101.

Well, at least we know that "kary123" doesn't read military blogs such as Blackfive, Mudville Gazette, Michael Yon, Bill Roggio, et al on a regular basis. The sheer ignorance of reality and parroting of talking points is astounding.

Back on topic of relevant, intelligent discussion... isn't it wonderful to see the Democrat leadership shun Veterans who support the war effort, while holding military strategy sessions with the likes of Communist/pro-terrorist groups such as CODE PINK, United for Peace and Justice and Daily Kos. And in addition, to hear one of the leading Presidential Candidates for the Democrats say he will sit down and talk with our country's sworn enemies.

Goes to show you that the Democrats have more respect for our country's enemies than they do for the men and women fighting them.

[MICHAEL in MI]

Synova - I don't believe the MSM is going easier on the Democrats. I think they are trying to throw the Democrats a bone to help them get back to sanity. So they ask the questions that they know the American public is wondering and hoping that the Democrats will give some sane answers. I don't believe for one minute that the MSM is now being more "impartial". Not in the least. They are simply trying their damndest to bring the Democrats back from the depths to which they have gone.

All you have to do is look at the way they spun the pathetic sham of a "debate" tonight on CNN. They were not asked one tough question of any relevance.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

Synova. I may just stand corrected. I just saw an article on new.google by the LA Times, talking about the potential dire consequences of pulling out of Iraq prematurely. I didn't read it yet, but the lead in was there.

I'll check it out.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

Cinci Bob,
Thanks for clarifying my political views for me. Being unapologetically hostile to a war that was fought for a lie and now is a quagmire with no end in sight, pardon me for teensy bit angry. Myopic? Maybe. Selfish? If you call wanting America to look after it's own interests and that of its citizens, then yes, I am selfish. If things are going so well, why is the Iraqi Parliament taking a month off while our boys are dying in hot sun?

That wasn't me, that was Synova. But it coulda been me so what the hey.

My God man, don't tell me you're going to go with Bush Lied - People Died....

Well, we could dance around this until we both got tired of waiting for it, but the bottom line is that if you don't understand the problem with ignoring problems, then we have little common ground to discuss. Good luck to you with that strategy.

I have no interest in debunking the incredibly debunked at this stage of the game.

As long as we're asking questions though, tell me why you are going to support a political party, which has the majority in congress, and has proven itself to be the pinnacle of incompetence by accomplishing zero. Just answer for yourself...

[MICHAEL in MI]

"I just saw an article on new.google by the LA Times, talking about the potential dire consequences of pulling out of Iraq prematurely."

Cincinnati_Bob - The MSM is simply putting that out there to test the waters and see how the LLL base reacts to it. If it gets a good response, the MSM can then tell the Democrats to use that in their campaigns.

They are still working together, just in different ways.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

Michael, yes you are right. I was giving it extra open mindedness which I tend to do on occasion only to get reamed once again.

I actually thought a couple years ago, that the MSM would hop on board the 'winner train' as soon as they sensed a win was at hand. They still may. I have no doubt they'd turn on their gnarley leftie crowd in a heartbeat.

I'm still looking forward to it.

PS - Kary. If it costs 2 trillion this time around, it will cost 5 trillion next time around if we pull up stakes before we are done. Those misguided bastids will come at us with everything they have if we show that kind of weakness.

Do some reading on predators, history, bullies, and [un]common sense. Hell, just do some reading.

[Cincinnati_Bob]

PS - Kary123. Here's what happens if we bug out.

- Genocide. Yea, I know you don't care.
- Iran takes control of Iraq's oil. You will care even if you're not aware of why at this point in time.
- Given that scenario, it follows easily that Iran then takes Kuwait's oil. I wonder how much you'll care about the tiny potential for oil washing up on the Florida beaches when that happens. My prediction? Zero. Even if you live in Florida. You'll probably even be marching on DC to open up ANWR!
Like shooting dead fish in a barrel...