Atrios - All Chicken And No Hawk

Posted By Blackfive

Armed Liberal at Winds of Change responds to more claims of "Chickenhawks" from the left side of the aisle...but first a definition of "Chicken hawk":

chicken hawk
n.

Any of various hawks that prey on or have the reputation of preying on chickens.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

I'm getting real tired of the whole "Chickenhawk" theme running through the left blogosphere.  It's use by the left is to attempt to silence debate - i.e. you can't be for the War on Terror unless you or your children are enlisting in the war.  Being a Soldier does not make my opinion about the war more valid than anyone else's opinion - even if they never served in the military, let alone combat.

Duncan Black who blogs as Atrios has a post about the recent problem with recruiting - basically that there are not enough Young Republicans signing up - and he resorts to some 3rd grade sarcasm about chickenhawks.

Per one of Armed Liberal's commenters, Glen Wishard, let's ask Duncan Black if he'll support efforts to increase recruiting by allowing recruiters on all campuses (where, BTW Black, a lot of Young Republicans go to school) - and let's throw in allowing JRROTC and ROTC on campuses, too.  Then, maybe we'll recruit a few more Ivy League types.

Donald Sensing of One Hand Clapping responds to Black's chicken hawk post with a list that Black should answer - unless he's all chicken and no hawk.  I think he's pissed off the Reverend Sensing...that's hard to do and ill-advised.  It's a must read (One Hand Clapping was one of the first blogs I ever read and was certainly one of the original MilBlogs).

While the Army is the only service suffering a serious recruiting shortage, it's 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq surpassed it's re-enlistment goal by 250%...that should tell you what the men and women that are actively engaged in the fight think of the mission in Iraq.

Update: Tigerhawk has a post about the false individualism in the anti-war movement...

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Atrios - All Chicken And No Hawk

Armed Liberal at Winds of Change responds to more claims of "Chickenhawks" from the left side of the aisle...but first a definition of "Chicken hawk":

chicken hawk
n.

Any of various hawks that prey on or have the reputation of preying on chickens.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

I'm getting real tired of the whole "Chickenhawk" theme running through the left blogosphere.  It's use by the left is to attempt to silence debate - i.e. you can't be for the War on Terror unless you or your children are enlisting in the war.  Being a Soldier does not make my opinion about the war more valid than anyone else's opinion - even if they never served in the military, let alone combat.

Duncan Black who blogs as Atrios has a post about the recent problem with recruiting - basically that there are not enough Young Republicans signing up - and he resorts to some 3rd grade sarcasm about chickenhawks.

Per one of Armed Liberal's commenters, Glen Wishard, let's ask Duncan Black if he'll support efforts to increase recruiting by allowing recruiters on all campuses (where, BTW Black, a lot of Young Republicans go to school) - and let's throw in allowing JRROTC and ROTC on campuses, too.  Then, maybe we'll recruit a few more Ivy League types.

Donald Sensing of One Hand Clapping responds to Black's chicken hawk post with a list that Black should answer - unless he's all chicken and no hawk.  I think he's pissed off the Reverend Sensing...that's hard to do and ill-advised.  It's a must read (One Hand Clapping was one of the first blogs I ever read and was certainly one of the original MilBlogs).

While the Army is the only service suffering a serious recruiting shortage, it's 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq surpassed it's re-enlistment goal by 250%...that should tell you what the men and women that are actively engaged in the fight think of the mission in Iraq.

Update: Tigerhawk has a post about the false individualism in the anti-war movement...

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